Deep Backward Point

Blog against the machine.

Feeding the Trolls in the Cricinfo Comments: Part II

Many trolls lurk in the depths of Cricinfo. The environmentalists at Deep Backward Point fear for their health. So I feed them periodically, with blog posts like this one.

Previously: Feeding the Trolls in the Cricinfo Comments: Part I

This time, I found many insightful Cricinfo comments that were too long for the average attention span. So, as a service to the reader, I provide a paraphrased shorter version. Enjoy.

Iyer  writes about Ashwin in the first India v. WI ODI:

“Ashwin cannot be criticized. The asking rate was only 3 an over with another 15 overs to go, and a such a cheeky second run wasn’t required at that situation. Ashwin was playing more maturedly and didn’t see a merit in such risky running between the wickets. Rohit should be criticized for not listening to Ashwin’s NO. Also rohit should be criticized for losing his wicket at the end without ensuring India’s victory. Rohit should also be criticized for taking too many first ball singles and leaving vinay exposed to face the rest of the over. It was a very risky strategy, and luckily vinay didn’t get out. Instead of criticizing all this, the commentators (gavaskar and arun lal) were picking soft target – Ashwin. Gavaskar is also partial bcos rohit plays for bombay.”

Shorter version: I’m from Tamil Nadu.

khiladisher shouts from the rooftops:

“THE WORLD CHAMPIONS INDIA ARE VIRTUALLY UNBEATABLE IN INDIA EVEN WITHOUT GREAT ONE DAY PLAYERS AND FINISHERS LIKE SACHIN-DHONI AND YUVRAJ.THEY HAVE NOW HAD THEIR 10TH CONSECUTIVE WIN AND THE THE ONLY LOSS THEY SUFFERED THIS YEAR WAS AT THE HANDS OF SOUTH AFRICA{A MATCH THEY SHOULD HAVE EASILY WON} WHEN THEY WERE 267-1 IN THE 39TH OVER AND WERE ALLOUT FOR 296-WITH SOUTH AFRICA WINNING WITH 2 BALLS TO SPARE. EVEN AT 59-5 THEY HAD A FUTURE GREAT ROHIT SHARMA AND THE FAST LEARNING ALL ROUND CRICKETER RAVINDRA JADEJA AT CREASE-WITH THE BOWLERS UMESH YADAV AND VARUN AARON PROVIDING THE FINISHING TOUCHES. INDIA SHOULD NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE WINDIES AND SHOULD WORK HARD FOR A SERIES WIN AND IF LUCKY A 5-0 RESULT.”

Shorter version: I have discovered the CAPS LOCK key. I have the power.

ramps_wi riffs:

“Gayle scored a Hundred in Zimbabwe when that should of been in India in today’s match, martin favored over narine, when narine was one of the best bowlers in the champions league. But I guess the selectors ensuring that too much trinis cannot be on the team. And now we left to wonder where we going wrong. Sammy has been proven time and time again, that he cannot win matches. Today’s match could of been won by better captaincy and woth narine bowling”

Shorter version: I can name more than three West Indian players.

piyo_thanda_jiyo_thanda fails to live up to his name:

“I think Pakistan can be happy only by beating minnows. Once they run into better teams, they will be found out. Enjoy it while it lasts (not for too long, i bet)”

Shorter version: I have short term memory loss. Sorry. Wait, who are you?

Stephon Joel Ramlogan says, while rubbing his eyes:

“ok kinda wierd because last time i watch cricket chris G was playin for west indies in world cup ….WHATS GOING ON PEOPLE how he playin in zim ..and not wi”

Shorter version: I have been asleep for 7 months. Literally. Asleep. I woke up, and it seemed really important to me to come to a page about domestic Zimbabwe domestic cricket. And then write this comment. No, I’m not curious why I fell asleep for 7 months. No, it doesn’t seem odd that I have no clue what happened in the interim. You’re saying people don’t comment on web pages about Zim cricket all the time? Who are you? Stop paraphrasing me! Stop! Stop it! *snore*

Ok, that last one wasn’t shorter.

Previously: Feeding the Trolls in the Cricinfo Comments: Part I

Sehwag on Sehwagology

Daniel Brettig on what Virender Sehwag told David Warner:

“Two years ago when I went to Dehli, Sehwag watched me a couple of times and said to me, ‘You’ll be a better Test cricketer than what you will be a Twenty20 player’,” Warner recalled. “I basically looked at him and said, ‘mate, I haven’t even played a first-class game yet’. But he said, ‘All the fielders are around the bat, if the ball is there in your zone you’re still going to hit it. You’re going to have ample opportunity to score runs. You’ve always got to respect the good ball, but you’ve always got to punish the ball you always punish’.”

Which tells me a lot more about Sehwag than about Warner. It also perhaps reveals why Sehwag is a Test great before he is an ODI great, even though his game is– according to the pundits– “naturally suited to the shorter formats”.

I especially like Sehwag’s sentence construction here: you’ve always got to punish the ball you always punish.

Sehwagology. Sehwag’s law. A weird combination of fate and free will.

What Makes Trott So Fascinating to Geeks

I’ve harped on Trott a lot. I wrote three very long posts trying to present numbers that quantify the uneasiness he generates.

That is what makes him so interesting– the most popular metrics used to judge a cricketer fail when judging Jonathan Trott. Batting average, strike rate, gross runs, 100s, 50s, are an inadequate set. Those of us who pay attention to numbers have known about the inadequacy of traditional statistics, but Jonathan Trott personifies this struggle. Any time anyone says, what’s wrong with traditional stats? We can say, “Jonathan Trott,” and smile knowingly.

He has scored enough runs on average. He has scored at a decent stike rate on average. And he has scored a lot of runs in aggregate. But what the numbers don’t tell you is whether he scored the runs at the appropriate time, at the appropriate rate. And that’s why I keep writing about him.

And Misbah. I need to write about Misbah.

Cricket was Dying, in 1969

42 years ago, Jack Fingleton in Wisden, with a few edits from me:

I’ve written before of how wrong I think it is that the best of the international blood of other countries should be sucked dry by England in trying to keep alive the out-moded, incongruous county cricket system the IPL.

International cricket will suffer, as the West Indians seemed to be suggesting at an early stage in their Australian England tour. They are tired of cricket before a tour begins. They are played out.

In trying to insist that there is still a future for six-day county Test cricket, the supporters of the system fail to realise the effect upon attendances of the deaths of hundreds of thousands of cricket lovers since World War Two. This applies not only to England. The lovers of cricket, if not the game itself, are dying out. It is a sober thought to be measured for the future.

In short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.

On Sad Stats

I promise this blog will not turn in to a series of links to The SightScreen. But since that site is an infant, it needs some nurturing and care. This blog is an awkward teenager, which disappears in his room for days, but occasionally surfaces with deep insights in to the merits of Eve Online over Warcraft. Is that information going to help you get a job, we ask him. And he slams his door again.

Over at baby SightScreen, I’ve written about the saddest statistics in Test cricket. Here’s a blurb:

Earlier this month, Shivnarine Chanderpaul earned the dubious distinction of having lost the highest number of Test matches in history (64), beating his former team-mate Brian Lara’s record of 63.

To mark this occasion, we bring you the list of other similar sad statistics that the champions of the game have had to bear.

Go read. Then come back, ’cause this teenager used to be your baby too, once upon a time.

The Trott Dossier

My first “feature length” article appears on the newly minted TheSightscreen.com, and it’s on Jonathan Trott. Also, it appears in the section of the site I am very proud to have named: Damned Lies and Statistics. I have found the statistical master key to the #TrottsFault enigma. I won’t give away the plot, but here’s an excerpt:

The England ODI team is stuck in the ’90s– not willing to commit to the modern pace of the game. Jonathan Trott typifies this problem. The player– and the team– who are content with “good enough” in an era of an abundance of runs.

Go read more. There are charts too. Read the rest of this entry »

Introducing: The Sight Screen

A couple of short months ago, the idea of a web site began as a series of conversations across four time zones over Twitter, email and Skype. The idea was for a fan-driven, magazine-style web site for a broad range of opinions. Opinionated, passionate but always fair.

Today, we launched The Sight Screen.

There is a section for Opinions called The Late Cut, where Karachi Khatmal’s article on cricket in Pakistan is a real masterpiece. There is a section called Replay for nostalgia, where Minal and Aashish (co-founders of The Sight Screen) address the lost promise of Sanjay Manjrekar. There’s a Stadiapedia, where we will catalog details about cricket stadiums around the world. And finally there’s the section that I’m proud to have named: Damned Lies and Statistics. It’s empty at the moment, but you’ll see something interesting from me and other authors there very soon.

So look around and let me know what you think. We’re very new, so there are bound to be glitches. Help us whack the bugs.

And finally, if you want to write about cricket, give us a shout. We want great articles from all walks of life. And here are our Editorial Guidelines.

Congratulations to the awesome core team: Aashish, Minal, Dilip, Masuud, Subash and Shrikant.

The Gayle Story, as Written for Daytime Television

Recently, a popular cable channel commissioned a team of top-notch soap opera writers to pen “The Chris Gayle Story”. After significant market research, they tailored the story to their target audience. The following is a leaked version of their notes (Note: Wickbee is an anthropomorphic female West Indies Cricket Board):

The Chris Gayle Story: Made for Television

The Chris Gayle Story: Made for Television (Click for Larger Version)

Rumor has it, the team has not yet decided on the ending. Happy endings sell, but tragedies are more memorable.

Read the rest of this entry »

In Defense of Cook (and Geeks)

I’m a big fan of Cook the Test batsman. I’m not sold yet on Cook the Test captain (though it seems inevitable). I’m ambivalent on Cook the ODI batsman, and I’m not sold on Cook the ODI captain. And let’s, for the purpose of this article, assume T20 does not exist.

But as someone who is described (by myself and others) as a geek, I can’t help but lighten-up when Minal describes him as follows:

Cook is the essential geek you need in your group to research, compile and present the project and fetch the grade so that you and your friends can play pictionary and scrabble into the night and get up early to watch cricket matches.

Yeah, that was never me. But I knew that guy too, and while I’d never let him captain my team, I would make sure no one would bully him around.

(Also, I’d call him a nerd, not a geek.)

Sometimes It Really is Trott’s Fault

Hypothesis: Jonathan Trott’s game is not suited to the 50 over game. His good batting in certain types of matches skews his figures, specifically matches where England bats first. England are setting themselves up failure when it will matter.

The above statement is my intuition. I proceeded to dig through the facts to confirm my claim. Or invalidate it.

Of course, Trott can disprove all of this in tomorrow’s match. So it goes.

The Data

The strike rates are generally not too interesting. He’s always around 80. Except when batting second and England lose.

Trott Strike Rate in ODIs

Trott Strike Rate in ODIs

The averages tell a better story: 67 when batting first 37 when batting second. And most astonishingly, when he bats first and plays a long innings, England loses. He has an average of 87 when batting first in matches that England lost. Think about that.

Trott Average in ODIs

Trott Average in ODIs

Theory

Jonathan Trott is a good batsman, on his way to possible Test greatness. In the 50 over game, he is suited to playing the anchor role. This role requires other batsmen to keep the scoring rate up. If he runs out of other batsmen, the jig is up, he needs to increase his scoring rate and he gets out sooner.

This mode of operation is especially well-suited to batting first, when there is no specific target total. When chasing a large total, the anchor role is fine a stop-gap but a strike rate in the 70s will not get the job done.

In fact, when England bats first and he makes a large score, they are more likely to lose the match. This may be because he takes up the bulk of the overs at a slower strike rate. Overs that in the hands of a better ODI batsman would have resulted in a higher score.

Conclusion, for now

This is not the last word. The broad data seems to confirm my hypothesis, but I’m open to change my mind. I am going through every match Trott has played to see which ones fit my theory and which don’t. Especially if Trott helps England chase down 350 in the next match.

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